MEMORANDUM TO: FILE DATE February 3, 1970 subject: MCA-FDCC Conn Delaney Clause Meeting of subcommittee of FDCC Committee of MCA to draft revision of Dalaney clause in FDC Act. Those . present were Mr. Taylor Hanavan, du Pont, Chairman; Dr. John Zapp, du Pont, Dr. Jack Frawley, Hercules, Mr. Robert Miller, Hercules, Mr. Morgan Hoover, MCA, and the writer. Although the Nelson bill (S3295) eliminates the GRAS (generally recognized as safe) list MCA was not asked to comment on this aspect. Mr. Hanavan will draft the proposed reply to Mr. Creed Black, Assistant Secrecary of HEW, but the appro­ priate content will be as follows: (a) that the Delaney clause is not necessary by reason of the fact that the Secretary is directed not to issue a food additive regulation if a fair evaluation of the data fails to establish that the proposed use is safe. (b) that the present wording of the clause remains substantial as a present to alleviate any fear that indus­ try would tolerate deleterious effects for food additives, and (c) that a proviso be added to present wording to the effect that "unless in the opinion of the Secretary sufficient evidence exists to permit the establishment of a (safe) or toxicologically insignificant level of intake for man of the substance so found to induce cancer. It was the concensus of opinion of the group that simple deletion of the Delaney clause would be politically unacceptable. Dr. Frawley indicated that the industry Committee of the Food Additives Committee of NAS-NRC has advocated repeal of the Delaney clause but that the NRC had contended it could not act until asked for its opinion. They have apparently now been asked and will submit comment via Dr. Handler, President of NRC-NAS. A point of conflict; Dr. Frawley had heard that Rep. Delaney was in favor of modification where'*Mr. Hoover heard from Mr. Black that Rep. Delaney opposed introduction of legislation to delete. C-639 (6-63) PTD. IN U.S.A. ASI 00002433 2 - - Although the Secretary now has power to abolish GRAS list, Mr. Ilanavan believes that legislation would be required to eliminate prior sanctions. In answer to question as to what would haooen if Delaney clause not deleted agreed to general answer that given right species, amount, time of administration, etc., almost any substance might be carcinogenic (i.e. not mention specific oroducts or types of products which might be in danger of elimination). Further_Notes_ on Delaney_ Clause Meeting (1) Zapp commented on legislative history of Act ~ In 1938 believed there was sharp line between poisonous and non-poisonous substances; by 1958 knew this assumption was false but believed substances were carcinogenic or not - now know that this also in error - carcinogens weak or potent. (2) See paper by Epstein and Lijinski - Nature, January 3. 1970. Believe NaN02 is precurser of nitrosamines in body - these potent carcinogens - no presently known sub­ stitutes for nitrates and nitrites in curing meat - other sub­ stances do not retain red color. Smoked meats use nitrates and other thincs - now smoke only few hours and after injection with needle. (3) Du Pont feeding studies on regeherated cellulose for Lehman of FDA, then had to do a lot of additional work for Cellophane reg. because this not regenerated cellulose i.e. other things added. W. A. Knapp Consultant - Toxicology ASI 00002434 I